diff --git a/src/Umbraco.Web.UI.Client/src/packages/block/block-list/property-editors/block-list-editor/property-editor-ui-block-list.element.ts b/src/Umbraco.Web.UI.Client/src/packages/block/block-list/property-editors/block-list-editor/property-editor-ui-block-list.element.ts
index 45ffa9c275..9e263cf849 100644
--- a/src/Umbraco.Web.UI.Client/src/packages/block/block-list/property-editors/block-list-editor/property-editor-ui-block-list.element.ts
+++ b/src/Umbraco.Web.UI.Client/src/packages/block/block-list/property-editors/block-list-editor/property-editor-ui-block-list.element.ts
@@ -133,6 +133,8 @@ export class UmbPropertyEditorUIBlockListElement
 	constructor() {
 		super();
 
+		//this.#validationContext.messages.debug('block list');
+
 		this.consumeContext(UMB_PROPERTY_CONTEXT, (context) => {
 			this.observe(
 				context.dataPath,
diff --git a/src/Umbraco.Web.UI.Client/src/packages/block/block/workspace/views/edit/block-workspace-view-edit-properties.element.ts b/src/Umbraco.Web.UI.Client/src/packages/block/block/workspace/views/edit/block-workspace-view-edit-properties.element.ts
index 295ee4073e..307e9f0978 100644
--- a/src/Umbraco.Web.UI.Client/src/packages/block/block/workspace/views/edit/block-workspace-view-edit-properties.element.ts
+++ b/src/Umbraco.Web.UI.Client/src/packages/block/block/workspace/views/edit/block-workspace-view-edit-properties.element.ts
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@ import { css, html, customElement, property, state, repeat } from '@umbraco-cms/
 import { UmbTextStyles } from '@umbraco-cms/backoffice/style';
 import type { UmbContentTypeModel, UmbPropertyTypeModel } from '@umbraco-cms/backoffice/content-type';
 import { UmbContentTypePropertyStructureHelper } from '@umbraco-cms/backoffice/content-type';
-import { UmbLitElement } from '@umbraco-cms/backoffice/lit-element';
+import { UmbLitElement, umbDestroyOnDisconnect } from '@umbraco-cms/backoffice/lit-element';
 
 @customElement('umb-block-workspace-view-edit-properties')
 export class UmbBlockWorkspaceViewEditPropertiesElement extends UmbLitElement {
@@ -70,7 +70,8 @@ export class UmbBlockWorkspaceViewEditPropertiesElement extends UmbLitElement {
 				html`<umb-property-type-based-property
 					class="property"
 					data-path=${this._dataPaths![index]}
-					.property=${property}></umb-property-type-based-property> `,
+					.property=${property}
+					${umbDestroyOnDisconnect()}></umb-property-type-based-property>`,
 		);
 	}
 
diff --git a/src/Umbraco.Web.UI.Client/src/packages/core/validation/context/validation-messages.manager.ts b/src/Umbraco.Web.UI.Client/src/packages/core/validation/context/validation-messages.manager.ts
index 6104c31dc8..7c6fc6c1b2 100644
--- a/src/Umbraco.Web.UI.Client/src/packages/core/validation/context/validation-messages.manager.ts
+++ b/src/Umbraco.Web.UI.Client/src/packages/core/validation/context/validation-messages.manager.ts
@@ -15,16 +15,16 @@ export class UmbValidationMessagesManager {
 	#messages = new UmbArrayState<UmbValidationMessage>([], (x) => x.key);
 	messages = this.#messages.asObservable();
 
-	/*constructor() {
-		this.#messages.asObservable().subscribe((x) => console.log('all messages:', x));
-	}*/
+	debug(logName: string) {
+		this.#messages.asObservable().subscribe((x) => console.log(logName, x, this.#translators));
+	}
 
 	getHasAnyMessages(): boolean {
 		return this.#messages.getValue().length !== 0;
 	}
 
 	messagesOfPathAndDescendant(path: string): Observable<Array<UmbValidationMessage>> {
-		path = path.toLowerCase();
+		//path = path.toLowerCase();
 		// Find messages that starts with the given path, if the path is longer then require a dot or [ as the next character. using a more performant way than Regex:
 		return this.#messages.asObservablePart((msgs) =>
 			msgs.filter(
@@ -36,13 +36,13 @@ export class UmbValidationMessagesManager {
 	}
 
 	messagesOfTypeAndPath(type: UmbValidationMessageType, path: string): Observable<Array<UmbValidationMessage>> {
-		path = path.toLowerCase();
+		//path = path.toLowerCase();
 		// Find messages that matches the given type and path.
 		return this.#messages.asObservablePart((msgs) => msgs.filter((x) => x.type === type && x.path === path));
 	}
 
 	hasMessagesOfPathAndDescendant(path: string): Observable<boolean> {
-		path = path.toLowerCase();
+		//path = path.toLowerCase();
 		return this.#messages.asObservablePart((msgs) =>
 			// Find messages that starts with the given path, if the path is longer then require a dot or [ as the next character. Using a more performant way than Regex: [NL]
 			msgs.some(
@@ -53,7 +53,7 @@ export class UmbValidationMessagesManager {
 		);
 	}
 	getHasMessagesOfPathAndDescendant(path: string): boolean {
-		path = path.toLowerCase();
+		//path = path.toLowerCase();
 		return this.#messages
 			.getValue()
 			.some(
@@ -64,7 +64,8 @@ export class UmbValidationMessagesManager {
 	}
 
 	addMessage(type: UmbValidationMessageType, path: string, body: string, key: string = UmbId.new()): void {
-		path = this.#translatePath(path.toLowerCase()) ?? path.toLowerCase();
+		//path = this.#translatePath(path.toLowerCase()) ?? path.toLowerCase();
+		path = this.#translatePath(path) ?? path;
 		// check if there is an existing message with the same path and type, and append the new messages: [NL]
 		if (this.#messages.getValue().find((x) => x.type === type && x.path === path && x.body === body)) {
 			return;
@@ -73,7 +74,8 @@ export class UmbValidationMessagesManager {
 	}
 
 	addMessages(type: UmbValidationMessageType, path: string, bodies: Array<string>): void {
-		path = this.#translatePath(path.toLowerCase()) ?? path.toLowerCase();
+		//path = this.#translatePath(path.toLowerCase()) ?? path.toLowerCase();
+		path = this.#translatePath(path) ?? path;
 		// filter out existing messages with the same path and type, and append the new messages: [NL]
 		const existingMessages = this.#messages.getValue();
 		const newBodies = bodies.filter(
@@ -86,7 +88,7 @@ export class UmbValidationMessagesManager {
 		this.#messages.removeOne(key);
 	}
 	removeMessagesByTypeAndPath(type: UmbValidationMessageType, path: string): void {
-		path = path.toLowerCase();
+		//path = path.toLowerCase();
 		this.#messages.filter((x) => !(x.type === type && x.path === path));
 	}
 	removeMessagesByType(type: UmbValidationMessageType): void {
@@ -94,6 +96,7 @@ export class UmbValidationMessagesManager {
 	}
 
 	#translatePath(path: string): string | undefined {
+		//path = path.toLowerCase();
 		for (const translator of this.#translators) {
 			const newPath = translator.translate(path);
 			// If not undefined or false, then it was a valid translation: [NL]